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It’s no secret that I love puppet logic. This premise is so stupid, but in the context of the unwavering belief of puppets I find it hilarious. I was just going to do the next actual page, but I got the idea and I haven’t drawn Ronathan and Pamamda in a very long time. Their heritage is probably based on Ed and Jessica’s so there’s a lore tie to the actual characters. Anyway, real comic on Monday. I hope you had a safe and happy holiday whatever god, or lack of god, you pray, or don’t pray, to.
Have a nice weekend. I’ll see you Monday. Until then, You wish and I’ll whittle. You drip while I dry. Let’s all try to help a little, ’cause even a miracle needs a hand.
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I mean, depending on which great grandmother on the mother’s side it is, they might actually be Jewish according to Jewish law, so…
That’s one of the funny things about identity. You may think of yourself one way, but society, other groups, different people, might see you as something else. Who is the ultimate judge?
True. My great grandmother on my mother’s side wasn’t Jewish, and yet I am Jewish. (Admittedly Ultra-Orthodox folks wouldn’t agree with me, but I reckon that’s THEIR problem.)
Yeah, as I understand it, my Dad’s grandmother was Jewish (Meijer), and therefore all her children are technically Jewish, even tho none of them are (or were, at this point, given they’re all dead) practicing. That makes my Dad’s Mom Jewish, and therefore, since she was Jewish, also my Dad.
But I’m not. Because my Mom is descended from a long line of Irish coal-mining people (with the occasional preacher and/or Highway bandit thrown in).
I’ve found it fascinating ever since I heard of the Right of Return… While he was alive, Dad had the Right to migrate to Israel.
But me and my brothers do not. Because we’re not Jewish.
The Israeli government can be rather more open when it comes to who qualifies for aliyah than the rabbinical courts are, so there’s a fair to good chance that you’d be able to emigrate to Israel under the Law of Return. I have the same ancestry, my fathers’ side of the family is Jewish, not my mothers, so as far as halacha is concerned I’m a gentile and would need to convert if I want to be considered Jewish, but the last time I looked into this I actually qualified to make aliyah. I think it depends on what the composition is of the coalition making up the government at the time, sometimes it swings more liberal, others more conservative.
And as you say, so long as the matrilineal line is unbroken, the children are Jewish, whether they know it or not, or are observant, or follow a different religion, or are atheist, it makes no difference.
In 1970, the Israeli government extended the Law of Return to include anyone who had a Jewish grandparent, and their spouse. This was NOT because they were considered Jews, but because historically (including recent history) such non-Jews have themselves been subject to persecution. I have a friend whose wife is uncontestedly a Jew, but his conversion was not accepted. He was permitted under the Law of Return, but his ID card said he was not a Jew.
Matrilineal decent was the rule in Judaism for a LONG time. (You can read it being enforced in the book of Nehemiah.) However, in 1970, the American Reformed movement decided that they would accept as Jews someone with a Jewish parent, provided that they participated in Jewish life cycle events. This was both more lenient, in that it permitted children of non-Jewish mothers, and more stringent, as it would reject someone with two Jewish parents who did not participate in these events. This was extremely controversial at the time, and was even rejected by Reform congregations outside the US. Over time, however, this became the practice of both Conservative and Reform congregations worldwide. No Orthodox, Sepharidi, or Mizrachi congregation can accept this notion, however.
Bro can still be Jewish and eat bacon. Not like heresy has ever stopped Christians from eating the devil’s delicacy. Or getting tattoos. Or celebrating Christmas (Jeremiah 10:2)
We got great grandma, and ma, but what about ma’s ma?
Because we need to read the Christian Holy-books, and the Jewish Holy-books, so that we can teach puppets- that puppets have the right to eat bacon?
I’ve often wondered what the absolute minimum adherence to a belief system still marks you as whatever that group is.
Kinda depends on who’s marking. Me, I’ve always been a fan of self-definition.
@Jackie
Me: Specific to Christianity, its actually really simple. You register / enter upon being baptized by a Pope sanctioned priest. And you exit if the Pope excommunicates you.
Jackie: Golly Gee. That’s so convenient. Good thing there’s only one type of Christianity. And one Pope.
Me:…
Practicing Judaism has never been a requirement for being a Jew. Not doing so would get you in trouble with the Jewish courts 3000 years ago, however.
I love the puppets. I forgot they were a thing. Christ I hope the first movie No does is a puppet play based around a Campaign Rulette runs for the gang. That would be glorious.
I didn’t remember them either, or any strips where they featured (still don’t remember those, alas).
/comics1/the-times-between-45
Luke P below linked it earlier. It was a blast of gags.
This – Ronathon was exactly what I needed to wake me up! I demand more puppet logic!!
Puppet Logic Rules!
BACON!!!
Hear hear!
Everybody is related to Adam and Noah no matter which side of the aisle you come at it from.
At least he didn’t circumcise the washtub.
Do you mean- some people want to circumcise the faucet on a bathtub, to support their traditions?
I was just wondering after the puppets the other day, and contemplating the absence of Christmas specials that were once so standard for webcomics.
The puppets’ antics are always a treat.
Psst!
Pamamda, my girl!
Your berries are SHOWING!
If anyone wants to read when Ronathan first appeared:
/comics1/the-times-between-45
You’re a champion!
Thank you, they were a delight to re-read. I might need to do a full re-read again one of these days.
All the best to you for the season & ’26, Jackie
Hey listen, I’m just glad the hannukiah is proper (how many have I seen with seven total arms?). My daughter is Jewish even though I (her mother) am not nor have I been interested in converting, while her father & all his lineage is. The Progressive tradition recognises that, and she’s been Bat Mitzvah & service leader & everything. If/when it comes time for her to marry & have kids, if she is within a more conservative group she may have to go through a conversion process. [proper Jewish shrug] Who am I to stick my nose in?
“You wish, and I’ll whittle…”
I think that’s from the 1974, cartoon- TV show/special-movie-thing: “‘Twas the Night Before Christmas.”
It has lots of: music, + cute mice, + people, + fun stuff like that.
:)
It is indeed. “‘Twas the Night Before Christmas”.
It is classic Rankin/Bass animation. I watched it each year in the 70’s on network TV the one time a year it came on. With the advent of cable I was able to share that tradition with my daughter. Now I DVR it from AMC (or the like) where it is shown multiple times and my, now adult, daughter and I enjoy it each Christmas eve.
It’s the end of December. Pamanda better be careful with those fantastic felt funbags.
I freakin’ LOVE the puppets! I’m so glad they came back for festive festiveness! And many thanks to the commenters who posted links to previous puppet pages. I had me some good laughs all over again! :-D